I know this got me on post review before, but this shit is ridiculous. How contradictory is it to have a sticky warning RXers about misleading records, units, and the like, and then give Cats 14 (NFL Trends was kind enough to count them), and STILL let him post misleading records (2 different lines = 1 bet when it's clear to everyone but him they are separate bets), and misleading win percentages when it has been proven by countless posters with ACTUAL MATHEMATICAL data that this strategy LOSES money long-term. I am a faithful RXer, but this bullshit is ruining the forum I love.
Is this real? Why are you so obsessed with me? And why are you so delusional?
One, the "two separate lines but one bet" is how it's ALWAYS been done in the rare instances that it has occurred. This is how it's been scored in EVERY YEAR in EVERY SPORT I've posted on here, and no one has ever said anything. Why do you bring this up now and not in any other week this season where I had this rare type of bet? Or in any week last season? Or during baseball?
And how come in the FOUR other times where I did this - and won each time - I only counted it as ONE win on my record instead of two? How many times do I have to say it? Each time this has happened, I won the bet. And did I count it as two separate wins? No, because that's dumb. It counted as ONE win on my record, despite having two lines. Just as if I lose tonight's game, it will count as ONE loss on my record.
You do realize that if you want everything scored in that manner, it would only improve my overall record, right? Because, as mentioned, there have been four other instances (Ex. Week 3's DEN/OAK matchup, in which I had Over 47 and Over 48, and only counted it as ONE win on my record) where such a bet took place. I won each time with BOTH lines, and, as mentioned a hundred times, it only counted as ONE win each time. So if we go through each instance where this has happened, you're saying I should get another win on my record, since I only originally counted it as one? Are you serious, man?
It's amazing. I can't win with some people here no matter what. I've abided by everything I've been told, and some just still can't let it go, referring to warnings from months ago that I have completely followed (And NFLTrends was exaggerating that number as a joke, smart one). It's unbelievable. Look in this week's thread as a perfect example: Barely even posted anything. Simply just put up my write-ups and picks, and instead I get bickering and garbage from a select few about the same things over and over and over and over. Every week. It's like clockwork. The same "tout" accusations; the same ranting against my methods of buying points on select games. It's the same thing everyyyy weekkkk from the same few of you.
And do you know what a "mis-leading" record is? How is my record AT ALL mis-leading? Did you miss the threads where we went over this and confirmed my record has been accurate all along? You do realize my win-loss record has never been fudged or anything? So how is that "mis-leading?" Every win that took place in my threads was scored as such. Every loss that took place in my threads was scored as such. And every push that took place in my threads was scored as such. What's the problem?
Lastly, you continue to ignore the math that proves I'm UP overall in games where I bought points, which we even had a thread to discuss this in, so again, here is the ACTUAL MATH concerning that topic (This is copied and pasted and does not include this week's or last week's results):
The Cat's 2013 NFL Over/Unders Where Bought Points Changed Result of the Bet
(Entering Week 10)
Week 5 - Chargers @ Raiders OVER 44 (Bought 2 Pts) - $30 for $20
(Would-be loss turned into a PUSH)
Gain: $30 Positive Swing
Week 7 - Browns @ Packers OVER 42 (Bought 3 Pts) - $60 for $35
(Would-be loss turned into a WIN)
Gain: $95 Positive Swing
Week 9 - Falcons @ Panthers OVER 44 (Bought 2 Pts) - $60 for $40
(Would-be loss turned into a PUSH)
Gain: $60 Positive Swing
OVERALL GAIN FROM BUYING PTS IN OVER/UNDERS SO FAR THIS YEAR: +$185
Now for the tough part, that being the other side of the equation...
The Cat's 2013 NFL Over/Under Losses Where Bought Points Resulted in Wasted Money
(Entering Week 10)
Week 1 - Seahawks @ Panthers OVER 43 (Bought 1.5 Pts) - $35 for $25
Extra Loss: -$7 (Since bet
would have been $28 for $25)
Week 2 - Lions @ Cardinals OVER 47 (Bought 0.5 Pt) - $120 for $100
Extra Loss: -$10 (Since bet
would have been $110 for $100)
Week 3 - Cardinals @ Saints OVER 47 (Bought 1.5 Pts) - $105 for $75
Extra Loss: -$22 (Since bet
would have been $83 for $75)
Week 4 - Steelers @ Vikings UNDER 44 (Bought 2 Pts) - $45 for $30
Extra Loss: -$12 (Since bet
would have been $33 for $30)
Week 5 - Bills @ Browns UNDER 44 (Bought 2.5 Pts) - $80 for $50
Extra Loss: -$25 (Since bet
would have been $55 for $50)
Week 5 - Jets @ Falcons UNDER 45 (Bought 1 Pt) - $78 for $60
Extra Loss: -$12 (Since bet
would have been $66 for $60)
Week 5 - Chiefs @ Titans UNDER 41 (Bought 2.5 Pts) - $32 for $20
Extra Loss: -$10 (Since bet would have been $22 for $20)
Week 5 - Patriots @ Bengals OVER 44 (Bought 1.5 Pts) - $35 for $25
Extra Loss: -$7 (Since bet would have been $28 for $25)
Week 7 - Seahawks @ Cardinals UNDER 44 (Bought 2.5 Pts) - $40 for $25
Extra Loss: -$12 (Since bet would have been $28 for $25)
Week 7 - Buccaneers @ Falcons UNDER 45 (Bought 1.5 Pts) - $28 for $20
Extra Loss: -$6 (Since bet would have been $22 for $20)
Week 8 - Jets @ Bengals UNDER 44 (Bought 2.5 Pts) - $32 for $20
Extra Loss: -$10 (Since bet would have been $22 for $20)
OVERALL LOSS FROM BUYING PTS IN OVER/UNDERS SO FAR THIS YEAR: -$133
OVERALL CONCLUSION: The Cat gained $185 from over/unders that WOULD have been losses if he didn't buy the point or point(s). The Cat lost $133 from over/unders where he bought points that didn't even matter. That means in the end, up to this point of the 2013 NFL season, The Cat has profited $52 from this distinct strategy of buying points in certain over/unders.
REMEMBER, those results are entering Week 10 so the number is probably a little less than that, although that also doesn't include the Falcons/Seahawks Over from a couple of weeks ago where I bought points, which saved me a nice swing in preventing me from a loss.
Happy now? Is there anything else you want me to address for the hundredth time? I wish I could understand the hate. I really do. I'm one of the nicest guys on here and one of the most helpful. I write more analysis than anyone else on here. What else do you want me from? A hug and a handshake?
One, the "two separate lines but one bet" is how it's ALWAYS been done in the rare instances that it has occurred. This is how it's been scored in EVERY YEAR in EVERY SPORT I've posted on here, and no one has ever said anything. Why do you bring this up now and not in any other week this season where I had this rare type of bet? Or in any week last season? Or during baseball?
And how come in the FOUR other times where I did this - and won each time - I only counted it as ONE win on my record instead of two? How many times do I have to say it? Each time this has happened, I won the bet. And did I count it as two separate wins? No, because that's dumb. It counted as ONE win on my record, despite having two lines. Just as if I lose tonight's game, it will count as ONE loss on my record.
You do realize that if you want everything scored in that manner, it would only improve my overall record, right? Because, as mentioned, there have been four other instances (Ex. Week 3's DEN/OAK matchup, in which I had Over 47 and Over 48, and only counted it as ONE win on my record) where such a bet took place. I won each time with BOTH lines, and, as mentioned a hundred times, it only counted as ONE win each time. So if we go through each instance where this has happened, you're saying I should get another win on my record, since I only originally counted it as one? Are you serious, man?
It's amazing. I can't win with some people here no matter what. I've abided by everything I've been told, and some just still can't let it go, referring to warnings from months ago that I have completely followed (And NFLTrends was exaggerating that number as a joke, smart one). It's unbelievable. Look in this week's thread as a perfect example: Barely even posted anything. Simply just put up my write-ups and picks, and instead I get bickering and garbage from a select few about the same things over and over and over and over. Every week. It's like clockwork. The same "tout" accusations; the same ranting against my methods of buying points on select games. It's the same thing everyyyy weekkkk from the same few of you.
And do you know what a "mis-leading" record is? How is my record AT ALL mis-leading? Did you miss the threads where we went over this and confirmed my record has been accurate all along? You do realize my win-loss record has never been fudged or anything? So how is that "mis-leading?" Every win that took place in my threads was scored as such. Every loss that took place in my threads was scored as such. And every push that took place in my threads was scored as such. What's the problem?
Lastly, you continue to ignore the math that proves I'm UP overall in games where I bought points, which we even had a thread to discuss this in, so again, here is the ACTUAL MATH concerning that topic (This is copied and pasted and does not include this week's or last week's results):
The Cat's 2013 NFL Over/Unders Where Bought Points Changed Result of the Bet
(Entering Week 10)Week 5 - Chargers @ Raiders OVER 44 (Bought 2 Pts) - $30 for $20
(Would-be loss turned into a PUSH)
Gain: $30 Positive Swing
Week 7 - Browns @ Packers OVER 42 (Bought 3 Pts) - $60 for $35
(Would-be loss turned into a WIN)
Gain: $95 Positive Swing
Week 9 - Falcons @ Panthers OVER 44 (Bought 2 Pts) - $60 for $40
(Would-be loss turned into a PUSH)
Gain: $60 Positive Swing
OVERALL GAIN FROM BUYING PTS IN OVER/UNDERS SO FAR THIS YEAR: +$185
Now for the tough part, that being the other side of the equation...
The Cat's 2013 NFL Over/Under Losses Where Bought Points Resulted in Wasted Money
(Entering Week 10)Week 1 - Seahawks @ Panthers OVER 43 (Bought 1.5 Pts) - $35 for $25
Extra Loss: -$7 (Since bet
would have been $28 for $25)Week 2 - Lions @ Cardinals OVER 47 (Bought 0.5 Pt) - $120 for $100
Extra Loss: -$10 (Since bet
would have been $110 for $100)Week 3 - Cardinals @ Saints OVER 47 (Bought 1.5 Pts) - $105 for $75
Extra Loss: -$22 (Since bet
would have been $83 for $75)Week 4 - Steelers @ Vikings UNDER 44 (Bought 2 Pts) - $45 for $30
Extra Loss: -$12 (Since bet
would have been $33 for $30)Week 5 - Bills @ Browns UNDER 44 (Bought 2.5 Pts) - $80 for $50
Extra Loss: -$25 (Since bet
would have been $55 for $50)Week 5 - Jets @ Falcons UNDER 45 (Bought 1 Pt) - $78 for $60
Extra Loss: -$12 (Since bet
would have been $66 for $60)Week 5 - Chiefs @ Titans UNDER 41 (Bought 2.5 Pts) - $32 for $20
Extra Loss: -$10 (Since bet would have been $22 for $20)
Week 5 - Patriots @ Bengals OVER 44 (Bought 1.5 Pts) - $35 for $25
Extra Loss: -$7 (Since bet would have been $28 for $25)
Week 7 - Seahawks @ Cardinals UNDER 44 (Bought 2.5 Pts) - $40 for $25
Extra Loss: -$12 (Since bet would have been $28 for $25)
Week 7 - Buccaneers @ Falcons UNDER 45 (Bought 1.5 Pts) - $28 for $20
Extra Loss: -$6 (Since bet would have been $22 for $20)
Week 8 - Jets @ Bengals UNDER 44 (Bought 2.5 Pts) - $32 for $20
Extra Loss: -$10 (Since bet would have been $22 for $20)
OVERALL LOSS FROM BUYING PTS IN OVER/UNDERS SO FAR THIS YEAR: -$133
OVERALL CONCLUSION: The Cat gained $185 from over/unders that WOULD have been losses if he didn't buy the point or point(s). The Cat lost $133 from over/unders where he bought points that didn't even matter. That means in the end, up to this point of the 2013 NFL season, The Cat has profited $52 from this distinct strategy of buying points in certain over/unders.
REMEMBER, those results are entering Week 10 so the number is probably a little less than that, although that also doesn't include the Falcons/Seahawks Over from a couple of weeks ago where I bought points, which saved me a nice swing in preventing me from a loss.
Happy now? Is there anything else you want me to address for the hundredth time? I wish I could understand the hate. I really do. I'm one of the nicest guys on here and one of the most helpful. I write more analysis than anyone else on here. What else do you want me from? A hug and a handshake?
And this is exactly what I mean. The same baseless, false accusations that continue to ruin my threads every week even though they have nothing to do with football analysis or football opinions. I'm here this year, AGAIN, to help people win money, just like every other handicapper here. Why am I any different from anyone else here?
If I was "auditioning," wouldn't I have just used last year's great season in which I was almost 57% and up several hundreds as my "audition?" Ever think about that?
Give it a rest already. Seriously.
Someone read me the Bibliography and let me know who CAT Over/Under is.....I have no clue. He doesn't ruin my board. I spend my time capping and visiting with friends......do yourself a favor and do the same. Ignore and they will never accomplish, a one hit wonder in their own little world.......gl
What a waste of time that was. lol I can smell a tout a few miles away.Is this real? Why are you so obsessed with me? And why are you so delusional?
One, the "two separate lines but one bet" is how it's ALWAYS been done in the rare instances that it has occurred. This is how it's been scored in EVERY YEAR in EVERY SPORT I've posted on here, and no one has ever said anything. Why do you bring this up now and not in any other week this season where I had this rare type of bet? Or in any week last season? Or during baseball?
And how come in the FOUR other times where I did this - and won each time - I only counted it as ONE win on my record instead of two? How many times do I have to say it? Each time this has happened, I won the bet. And did I count it as two separate wins? No, because that's dumb. It counted as ONE win on my record, despite having two lines. Just as if I lose tonight's game, it will count as ONE loss on my record.
You do realize that if you want everything scored in that manner, it would only improve my overall record, right? Because, as mentioned, there have been four other instances (Ex. Week 3's DEN/OAK matchup, in which I had Over 47 and Over 48, and only counted it as ONE win on my record) where such a bet took place. I won each time with BOTH lines, and, as mentioned a hundred times, it only counted as ONE win each time. So if we go through each instance where this has happened, you're saying I should get another win on my record, since I only originally counted it as one? Are you serious, man?
It's amazing. I can't win with some people here no matter what. I've abided by everything I've been told, and some just still can't let it go, referring to warnings from months ago that I have completely followed (And NFLTrends was exaggerating that number as a joke, smart one). It's unbelievable. Look in this week's thread as a perfect example: Barely even posted anything. Simply just put up my write-ups and picks, and instead I get bickering and garbage from a select few about the same things over and over and over and over. Every week. It's like clockwork. The same "tout" accusations; the same ranting against my methods of buying points on select games. It's the same thing everyyyy weekkkk from the same few of you.
And do you know what a "mis-leading" record is? How is my record AT ALL mis-leading? Did you miss the threads where we went over this and confirmed my record has been accurate all along? You do realize my win-loss record has never been fudged or anything? So how is that "mis-leading?" Every win that took place in my threads was scored as such. Every loss that took place in my threads was scored as such. And every push that took place in my threads was scored as such. What's the problem?
Lastly, you continue to ignore the math that proves I'm UP overall in games where I bought points, which we even had a thread to discuss this in, so again, here is the ACTUAL MATH concerning that topic (This is copied and pasted and does not include this week's or last week's results):
The Cat's 2013 NFL Over/Unders Where Bought Points Changed Result of the Bet
Week 5 - Chargers @ Raiders OVER 44 (Bought 2 Pts) - $30 for $20
(Would-be loss turned into a PUSH)
Gain: $30 Positive Swing
Week 7 - Browns @ Packers OVER 42 (Bought 3 Pts) - $60 for $35
(Would-be loss turned into a WIN)
Gain: $95 Positive Swing
Week 9 - Falcons @ Panthers OVER 44 (Bought 2 Pts) - $60 for $40
(Would-be loss turned into a PUSH)
Gain: $60 Positive Swing
OVERALL GAIN FROM BUYING PTS IN OVER/UNDERS SO FAR THIS YEAR: +$185
Now for the tough part, that being the other side of the equation...
The Cat's 2013 NFL Over/Under Losses Where Bought Points Resulted in Wasted Money
Week 1 - Seahawks @ Panthers OVER 43 (Bought 1.5 Pts) - $35 for $25
Extra Loss: -$7 (Since bet
Week 2 - Lions @ Cardinals OVER 47 (Bought 0.5 Pt) - $120 for $100
Extra Loss: -$10 (Since bet
Week 3 - Cardinals @ Saints OVER 47 (Bought 1.5 Pts) - $105 for $75
Extra Loss: -$22 (Since bet
Week 4 - Steelers @ Vikings UNDER 44 (Bought 2 Pts) - $45 for $30
Extra Loss: -$12 (Since bet
Week 5 - Bills @ Browns UNDER 44 (Bought 2.5 Pts) - $80 for $50
Extra Loss: -$25 (Since bet
Week 5 - Jets @ Falcons UNDER 45 (Bought 1 Pt) - $78 for $60
Extra Loss: -$12 (Since bet
Week 5 - Chiefs @ Titans UNDER 41 (Bought 2.5 Pts) - $32 for $20
Extra Loss: -$10 (Since bet would have been $22 for $20)
Week 5 - Patriots @ Bengals OVER 44 (Bought 1.5 Pts) - $35 for $25
Extra Loss: -$7 (Since bet would have been $28 for $25)
Week 7 - Seahawks @ Cardinals UNDER 44 (Bought 2.5 Pts) - $40 for $25
Extra Loss: -$12 (Since bet would have been $28 for $25)
Week 7 - Buccaneers @ Falcons UNDER 45 (Bought 1.5 Pts) - $28 for $20
Extra Loss: -$6 (Since bet would have been $22 for $20)
Week 8 - Jets @ Bengals UNDER 44 (Bought 2.5 Pts) - $32 for $20
Extra Loss: -$10 (Since bet would have been $22 for $20)
OVERALL LOSS FROM BUYING PTS IN OVER/UNDERS SO FAR THIS YEAR: -$133
OVERALL CONCLUSION: The Cat gained $185 from over/unders that WOULD have been losses if he didn't buy the point or point(s). The Cat lost $133 from over/unders where he bought points that didn't even matter. That means in the end, up to this point of the 2013 NFL season, The Cat has profited $52 from this distinct strategy of buying points in certain over/unders.
REMEMBER, those results are entering Week 10 so the number is probably a little less than that, although that also doesn't include the Falcons/Seahawks Over from a couple of weeks ago where I bought points, which saved me a nice swing in preventing me from a loss.
Happy now? Is there anything else you want me to address for the hundredth time? I wish I could understand the hate. I really do. I'm one of the nicest guys on here and one of the most helpful. I write more analysis than anyone else on here. What else do you want me from? A hug and a handshake?
